Ep.36 Love Your Woo with Jess Bubbico

"I'm really crazy.  Like, this isn't real.  I know that I've been kind of tuned in and maybe seeing some signs and stuff. But this is crazy.  So now I'm like, let me just take this a step further and see what happens."

Jess Bubbico is a speech therapist turned speaker, podcaster & founder of Love Your Woo - a global community of change makers ready to shake up the planet.  This is the story of Jess stepping away from her traditional, science-based career to embrace the woo that'd always been a part of her.

In this episode, you'll learn about:
1. The way shame and embarrassment can hold you back.
2. Developing your intuition.
3. Removing the boxes we place ourselves.

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Transcript

Jess Bubbico: 0:00

I remember telling my parents Hey, I'm starting to do intuitive readings. My mom was familiar with psychics because she had gone to psychics when I was younger. And she was just like, okay, maybe don't lead with that on a date. And I'm like, okay, but all that shame, like, had kind of crystallized into not fully living in congruence with myself as well, because I was carrying this like, people are going to think this is weird. So I think for me, it's still this gradual unfolding process as I do this work of Okay, notice when shame comes up, notice when embarrassment comes up. Notice, you know my business is Love your Woo, my mom said to me the other day, oh, I was telling some friends about your business. And some people asked me if woo was a vagina. I'm like, No, it's not a vagina.

Jamie Stephens: 0:50

Thanks for tuning in to another episode of breaking up a corporate. Each week I chat with everyday women that ditch their nine to five to bet on themselves. We break down their journey into entrepreneurship, unpack the lessons learned and create the vision of how this life gets to be if you're willing to get uncomfortable and step into your potential. I'm your host, Jamie Riene, to time corporate escapee and coach to burnout women looking to plan their escape. Let's go. Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Breaking up with corporate. Today I have Jess Bubbico, who is a keynote speaker and acclaimed podcast host and founder of the global love your woo community. Jess, welcome to the show.

Jess Bubbico: 1:38

Thank you so much for having me here today. Yeah, so

Jamie Stephens: 1:41

we were just chit chatting a little bit about kind of your background. So I'll just let you get right into it. And tell us a little bit about what your background was, and kind of the corporate setting. And then we'll get into what you're doing today.

Jess Bubbico: 1:55

Absolutely. So I started out in the world of speech therapy, speech language pathology. And I actually started out in the school setting. So I graduated from graduate school and went right into the schools, which is not the same as corporate, but I can definitely say there's a lot of politics in a school and a lot of drama that can happen in a school, especially when probably I want to say like 97% of the school was women. So that brings its own really unique sort of dynamics. And then I ended up moving into so I went to Penn State for undergrad. And then I went back up to Connecticut where my family lives and did my graduate schooling and Connecticut, southern Connecticut State University. And then I ended up going down to North Carolina, like I need to change I need to get out of the Northeast, the winters are so cold, I'm over it, like I'm gonna fly the coop and head south. And so I had always I started in the schools, because it was a bit easier as a brand new clinician to get a job in the schools, you have to do something called a clinical fellowship year, your first year. And so it's much easier to get supervision in the schools. But I knew I wanted to work in the hospitals. And down in North Carolina, I worked for Carolina's health care system, which is like the largest hospital system in the Carolinas. And so I ended up going in and starting to work with brain injury patients after I had gotten a little bit of experience under my belt in the schools. And I made the leap into that corporate more corporate environment, everything in the hospitals, you know, I moved around a little bit within the system. But the thing that I kept on seeing that felt really disheartening to me was that, and I understand this from a financial perspective, but most people go into speech therapy because they love working with people, they want to help people. You know, for me, in particular, I loved being able to be on a rehab floor and see someone go from, you know, I worked both acutely in the hospital. So if somebody had a stroke, I would go in and I would do a swallow evaluation with them to see if they were having any issues with you know, breathing, swallowing, etc. And then I got to see them move on to the rehab floor, and then I could work with them there and get to kind of be with them along their journey. You get to meet the family, you get to get involved for those who have family support. And yet behind the scenes, what was would happen is these decisions would be made that really, and again, I understand the financial aspect of things, especially now running my own business, but it's like, these things are not in the best interest of the patient. I don't personally think a lot of them when I eventually transitioned back into because I went from the hospital to a hospital rehab, outpatient rehab outside of the hospital and was working with kids again, it was like, you know, we had low income families that were coming in that had trouble with transportation. It was challenging for them to get there. And they'd say, Well, when people aren't sure up, we're going to take away people having a recurring schedule every week where they get to come the same time, the same place. Because they're both financially it doesn't make sense. Yeah. So they're wanting these families who sometimes don't have transportation, maybe mom or dad are working, or it's the single parent, they're working multiple jobs, and they're going, well, these people are gonna have to call at the beginning of the week, and get an appointment. And you're like, How feasible is this, this isn't actually serving the client in the highest way possible. I understand from a financial perspective, what's going on, but maybe we need to look at how the money is being divided up around who's making what within the hospital system, or whatever it may be. And I actually ended up leaving to pursue my own business, like, right as this change was happening, because I'm like, I can't I it just didn't align with my values. And I was like, I can't do this anymore. And not to mention, I had a hard time in the hospitals, because I knew a lot about nutrition. And I had been a fitness instructor growing up, you know, as I was in college, grad school, I needed to make money became a fitness instructor. And I'm like, we're serving ham and cheese sandwiches on white bread, and Coca Cola to somebody who's trying to heal their bodies. So I want to zoom out and say, I was very grateful for being in that more corporate environment. Because when you're, as a speech therapist, you know, people open up private practices that are smaller, and that are more connected with the heart of speech therapy in the first place. So being able to go into that corporate environment and see like, Okay, this is the machine, this is what it looks like, I was grateful for it, because there were certain things that it provided for me, where I could go, Okay, there's some stability here. And I got to learn a lot of things that I might not have been able to learn in a private practice. Because, you know, they hosted workshops and classes, right. So it's like, okay, got some really cool access to free education or these different things. But I think at the end of the day, the reason I chose to break up with corporate was because it really didn't align with my value system. And I couldn't get behind saying one thing. And having all this beautiful marketing, and people hugging each other, and hospitals at whatever, and all care, and then behind the scenes, watching all of this conversation happen around money and structure and all the stuff that doesn't necessarily to me feel like it's actually aligned. So I, I gracefully exited, because I'm like, This just doesn't, doesn't fit. So it's usually

Jamie Stephens: 7:49

rarely about the job itself. Whenever people leave, you know, it's all of that crap that happens behind the scenes and the incongruence. And the Yeah, I mean, I get all of that. So whenever you left, did you go straight into speech therapy at your own private practice? Or what were you going in a different direction,

Jess Bubbico: 8:09

I ended up going in a different direction. So actually, the first day of my school job, I'm gonna say, the first week of my school job, I remember calling my dad and I'm like, I would think I was 24 at the time, and I was like, I don't think I can do this. How many three years like this is day one, how many more years? Do I have to do this for? Probably a solid like 35 to 40. I'm like, Oh, my God, I can't like there's just no way. And around that same time. Honestly, about a year before I finished speech therapy school, I started kind of going through my own spiritual awakening of sorts. I didn't know that that's what it was at the time. But I broke up out of a like long term, seven year relationship, young love. And I started to like, explore myself. And I'm like, why? Who am I? What's important to me? And so when I finished school, I had that realization of like, I don't think I can work for somebody else, 40 hours a week, in the same therapy room for the next 35 years, like I will, I will die. Yeah. And so I started pursuing different things outside of the therapy realm, because as much as I loved speech therapy, and I still do, there's, I mean, it's a beautiful career. There were limitations within it. So as an example, like I'd be working with a child, maybe on articulation stuff, but there's massive behavioral issues that are happening. And those massive behavioral issues that are happening are happening because of parental stuff that's going on behind the scenes. So I started to see these limitations of like, Am I making the most impact here? Like can I actually help to the highest degree of what I love doing in this setting? So that's when I started really learning more about like I said, I had been had a fitness background, learning about nutrition, mental health, spirituality. So when I transitioned out of corporate, I had actually started on the side, my own business, pretty much if I started my corporate job in 2013, or started my career in 2013 2014, I was already starting a business, you know, because I knew I had that entrepreneurial mindset, and I am creative. And I, yeah, I, you know, I'd always worked multiple jobs, too. So I transitioned out into my own little intuitive witchy woowoo business, which was the exact opposite of what I was doing, which came with a lot of its own baggage. A lot of like, shame, embarrassment, like I was supposed to be this like speech therapist talking about brain injury, and maybe one day aspire to take over a, you know, department or hospital or something. And now I'm talking about, like, intuition and your feelings and woowoo stuff. So I had, which is why my business is called Love Your will, because that's the process that I went through was like, honestly, it's funny, because I'm talking about it. I'm because I don't tell these stories. Often. I'm like, a lot of shame, a lot of embarrassment. Lot of yeah, a lot of internal work went into it. So yeah, that's what I stepped out of into,

Jamie Stephens: 11:21

how long did that take you to kind of realize number one, that's what was happening, whenever you transitioned with the shame and all of that. Tell me a little bit about that process, kind of that the undoing of the speech, therapist identity and kind of stepping into this new role. I know that that comes with, like you said, its own baggage. But tell me, tell me more about that.

Jess Bubbico: 11:46

Yeah, it's, it's interesting, because if I can actually rewind a little bit, I had always, as a kid, stayed very connected to I believe everybody is intuitive. I know, everybody's intuitive. And I know everybody's intuitive in their own way. And when I look at intuition, really what I'm just looking at, it's not about like having to be the super ultra spiritual person who sits on the side of a mountain or does Iosco, or whatever. You know, to me, intuition is, those little synchronicities or those little things that happen, that can't be explained by logic. So the example of, I'm thinking about somebody that I haven't talked to in a while, and then they call me, and I'm like, Wow, that's crazy. I was just thinking about you, or, you know, things like this. When I was a kid, I had stayed pretty connected to intuition. And I specifically had a lot of situations with people who had crossed over, coming back and visiting, and having the ability to connect with them. Now, I wasn't sitting again, I didn't have a spiritual family. I came from like a Roman Catholic Connecticut family that was like, don't tell people about that. That's weird, or like, Yeah, whatever. So I can remember, in 2014, I started working with a mentor on intuition, because I called a psychic and was like, Hey, I hate my job. I don't know what to do. I'm lost. I was going through like a massive dark night of the soul. And by the way, I think I can talk to dead people, right? Like, I'm like, I yeah, I'm like, but I also love logic and science. So I don't want to become one of those woowoo people that I see, you know, the judgment was there, right? So she was like, she was really cool. She's a great friend now. And she, she was just like, I teach classes on this. And I can support you with kind of opening up to and understanding it. I think a lot of people fear intuition, because we don't have a structure and a scaffold, to understand it. And as human beings, we need to be able to understand things and make logical sense of them. Which, to me intuition. Now, as I understand it is actually there is a foundation, there is a structure, there's a way in which things kind of happen. So anyways, as I studied with her, and I was opening up more and more to my own gifts, it was kind of a gradual having to deal with because I, this all started in 2014. And then I stepped out four years later from the corporate scene. So I was building a foundation for myself as I was stepping out. So the process for me was really like, you know, telling my best friend, like, hey, remember when I was younger, and I had that weird thing happened with that dream with my grandma that my mom saw at the same time, and I was freaking out because it was super weird. And I maybe could connect with her after she had died. Well, now I'm starting to do intuitive readings. They're like, okay, cool. We support it. Thankfully, we support you. So it wasn't this sort of like black and white, like, leap out. It was a gradual process. But I remember telling my parents, hey, I'm starting to do intuitive readings. My mom was familiar with psychics because she had gone to psychics when I was younger. And she was just like, okay, maybe don't lead with that on a date. And I'm like, okay, but that all that shame, like, had had kind of crystallized into not fully living in congruence with myself as well, because I was carrying this, like, people are gonna think this is weird. So I think for me, it's still this gradual unfolding process as I do this work of like, Okay, notice when shame comes up. Notice when embarrassment comes up, notice, you know, my businesses love your Whoo, my mom said to me the other day, oh, I was telling some friends about your business. And some people asked me if we was a vagina. I'm like, No, it's not a vagina. But I get why you think that right? Because we call private parts weird things to children. Right? So I think for me, it's it's this constant. Like, I'm much more comfortable with it now. But I think the process for me has been keep going inward, keep turning towards your discomfort, like, don't run from it, because I could run from it and go right back to a speech therapy job because I still have my license if I wanted to, but sometimes the not. So the path is the most enriching path.

Jamie Stephens: 16:33

For sure. Yeah, that just that brings up so much other than trying to figure out like, which direction I want to go. That because I am, I did hear this story with your grandma, on the one podcast that I chose to listen to before this. So can you tell us a little bit about that story? And then we'll kind of, we'll back into all of my questions.

Jess Bubbico: 16:58

Absolutely. So I'm born on the same day as my mom and my grandma. So I'm born March 22. So as my mom and my mom's mom, so already, they're, like, kind of weird and crazy, right? Like who's born on the same day as their mom and grandma? Turns out Brooklyn Decker is for anybody out there's a Grace and Frankie Yeah. Yeah, it was like holy crap. Who knew? When I was younger, right, in the middle school years, like, sixth to eighth grade, I lost a lot of pee, a lot of people died that were significant in my life. And I remember at that time thinking, like, you know, I've seen psychic shows, I've seen the sixth sense. Like, I wonder if it's possible to stay connected to these people. And so, this is funny, because I'm reflecting on this. Now, I don't know that I've ever said this out loud. But like, I think there was a natural curiosity in my mind. That was like, what happens when people die? And, you know, how do we stay connected? And so I think I would just try to see things or I would just try to see if I could feel or sense something. And so my grandmother died when I was right around 15 or 16 years old. I mean, this woman was lived in Italy during World War Two, they were farmers. I think she had a third grade education. Hard life like they were, from what I understand, she started telling me before she passed that, like, I think they were taken on a train by the Nazis going somewhere, but it was bombed by the Americans. She survived stomach cancer. And then she was hit by a drunk driver as she was walking. It was the night before she had planned this big party for my mom and dad for their 25th wedding anniversary. So just a really interesting story and very interesting life and tragic in many ways. But when this happened, my mom obviously had seen her and had, I think, a lot of PTSD because she saw her injured and all of that kind of stuff. So she was going through, not just losing her mom, but having a very traumatic experience of losing her mom. And what she said to me my mom's big on dreams, like we my mom's my mom's very psychic, but doesn't like admittedly say she's psychic, but she's very she knows she knows everything. And so she had said to me, Jess, I want to have a dream about grandma. But I can't dream about her. And I just assumed it was because of all the trauma she had gone through. She was having trouble connecting. So laying in bed one night, and I have the covers up over my head and I'm laying on my stomach. And I'm like, what I would call praying to my grandma, I would just sit and talk to my grandma in my head. I didn't know if I was doing anything. I was just like Let me just talk to her and see if she can hear me. And I felt her this night sitting on the edge of the bed, rubbing my back. And I'm thinking, like, I'm really crazy. Like, this isn't real. I know that I've been kind of tuned in and maybe seeing some signs and stuff. But this is crazy. So now I'm like, let me just take this a step further and see what happens. And I'm like, Hey, Mom wants to have a dream about you. Could you go visit her in her dreams? Whatever, walk downstairs for breakfast the next morning. And my mom's like, Hey, I had a crazy dream last night, I was looking through a keyhole into your bedroom. And I saw grandma sitting on your bed. And I'm just like, no, like, is this this is real like this? Is? This is real. Is that a coincidence? Like, what is this? And so again, I really kept the door open. And when I graduated, I was I had this curiosity. I'm like, there has to be more to life than this. And I feel like that situation. And that experience, really impacted my ability to see beyond sort of the matrix of what I just could, I could not get down with like, you have to get you are now an adult. You have to get a job. And you have to hate it for the next 35 years, and then retire and live life. And I think that experience really laid a foundation for me to see like, there is something beyond this matrix we live in.

Jamie Stephens: 21:38

It's another layer and another layer. And yeah, a lot of layers. That is so cool. I'm curious to do whenever you felt hurt. Did you turn around and look, or did you stay under the covers?

Jess Bubbico: 21:51

Hell no. I was like, I don't want to see anything. Like I do not want to see anything. But you knew it was her I knew. Yeah. Yep. I personally think our loved ones are always around. So if there's anybody who's listening who's going like, you know, and everybody's gonna have varying degrees, some people are gonna go, that resonates with me, some people it won't totally cool. But I know our loved ones are always around us who have crossed over. And so it's like, really allowing yourself too. It's not even open the mind to me, it's like, open the heart to open the heart to be like, Okay, I'm here. I'm listening. Show me, you know, my, you know, my mom, her dad passed away when she was young. And she was asking her dad for a sign. You know, and again, my mom's like, super psychic, but like, the most skeptical psychic of all, like, doesn't advertise it. But I'm, I'm just always like, how, like, how do you know, she just knows. And she asked for this sign. And that night, my she came home, I believe this is how the story goes. She like came home. And my dad was watching Stanley to cheese, exploring Italy or something. And they were eating this cheese that my mom has these, like super vivid memories of my grandfather eating because it's disgusting. It has like maggots in it. But it was like delicacy, I guess, Italy. And she's like, Okay, I got my sign. I know, he's here that it can show up in these subtle ways. You know? Yeah. That's my tangent on those who have crossed over. But I think if we allow our, our minds and our hearts to open enough to know that we're always being supported. Yeah.

Jamie Stephens: 23:38

It's there. You just yeah. There's there's the tuning and the acknowledgement able to receive and I think a lot of certainly that's not ever discussed in like a corporate setting. But also, I think it has a lot to do with just the way society as a whole kind of functions where there's a lot of money made by people putting the answers outside of yourself. You know, I mean, those billion dollar industries have. Oh, yeah, made me not like you have your own guidance. Yeah, but that's a whole other.

Jess Bubbico: 24:19

Totally. And I had a client. I believe he was Chinese. I don't know exactly. I don't know exactly where he was from. But I remember talking to him about intuition and, you know, ancestors, and he's like, you know, culturally, it's not weird for my culture to think that ancestors are still around because we very much honor the ancestors and believe they're gonna give us science and there's so many cultures that are like that, right? Where I think we in, at least in America, and I'm sure many other countries as well. We are conditioned to look at outside of ourselves for answers for somebody else to tell us what's right for us. And that's, that's how intuition has been weaved into my business now, because my business started out very much going like, Okay, I'm gonna, I mean, it's the polar like I did the polar ice thing, like, all the way science to all the way Whoo. And now my deepest desire in the world is for everyone to trust themselves. And to be able to tune into that aspect of themselves, where they feel like they know where they're going, not from a logical perspective, but from a heart based intuitive perspective where they can learn to really trust like, this feels right for me, this doesn't feel right for me, I know, this is what everyone else is doing. But this is what I know, inside of my heart, even if it makes no logical sense to anybody else.

Jamie Stephens: 25:53

So for people that are listening, how would you suggest that they go about starting that process of learning to put away like, what everybody else is doing? And really kind of tune in? I mean, knowing kind of your journey and the shame that comes with it and kind of acknowledging these things and all of the barriers that exist, like how do people start that process of really receiving that guidance? And looking for signs, like, where do they start?

Jess Bubbico: 26:26

Great question. I think there's many different entry points for people. And so I'm going to preface this by saying, notice what feels right for you, always because, yeah, exactly. Because it's like I could tell you what to do. And you have your own relationship to your intuition already. Even if you don't realize that you do. The first thing I'm going to say is, whatever you can do to get connected to yourself, is really important. So whether that's walking in nature, dancing, riding a horse, doing art, what are the things in the activities that help you to feel and like another way to look at it is like, what makes me feel the most alive? The most present the most in the moment, I have a client who does hang gliding her and her partner and she's like, Man, I come away from those hang gliding sessions just full of life and full of ideas and full of possibility. So how can you create space in your life for that, even if it's, you know, your mom, and you've got kids, there a way that you can wake up 10 minutes earlier than everyone else and put your feet on the ground and connect and take five to 10 deep breaths, so that you can just get a moment of pure presence. Number two, I always invite people to pull out a journal, and reflect on the times in your life. When you've had those moments of like, Man, I just knew something. And I don't know how I just I felt called and direction and I did it. There's a science to that, even though maybe it doesn't seem like it in the moment. How did things come through for you? Did you just like you just knew, and you in your body? You just knew? Did you have a feeling about it? What was that? Make notes and start to pay attention to when that stuff happens to you, because it's giving you an indication of something. Number three, is really starting to learn and understand the differences between your intuition and fear, which is not easy. And it's a hard one. And what I'm gonna say about this is, this is why I love human design. For anybody, if you haven't listened to Jamie's other podcasts on human design, I'm sure there's some great nuggets there about the basics, so I won't bore you with them. But go back and listen to that episode. Because human design is a system that helps you to understand how you connect with energy. How you make decisions, like on a practical level, it's like how do I make decisions? How does my intuition speak to me? How am I designed to work and operate in the world? I use human design a lot in this space of career because it's a really powerful tool for that. But it's like how am I designed to make decisions and process the world around me. So it can literally tell you inside of that some really basic key functions on how your intuition operates. So as an example, you're what's called a generator. There's five archetypes in human design. The manifester, the manifesting generator, generator, projector and reflector and each one is going to interface with the world a little bit differently and manifest and create whatever word you you like using hear differently. As a generator, we know that as an archetype, you're not here to be somebody that just Is pushes and make stuff happen. But actually, there's a beautiful essence of responding. And really allowing yourself to respond to life and respond to the signs around you. And then make your decisions by listening to your gut. That will change the game, if you're in a place going, my mom and dad told me that I need to be this in order to be successful. My husband or partner is telling me this, or I'm telling myself this as a result of what someone else is doing. Human Design gets to give us just by the very basics of human design, an understanding of coming into autonomy with our own decision making process, not from the mind, but from the heart, from the body, and from our own intuitive wisdom. So do you feel like for you, you're connected to your because you have what's called sacral? Authority. There's different authorities in human design that speak to how we make decisions. Do you feel like you're connected to your your gut and going like a Ha, this feels right? Or doesn't?

Jamie Stephens: 31:06

Yes, and I do have to work? I mean, it's very intentional to be able to drop into that, I think what I have like a Triple Split, channel or whatever, just man, it's just, yeah, so I that is where it comes from. But I have to be really present and really, in tune to be able to drop down and like, hear that guidance. Yep, for sure.

Jess Bubbico: 31:33

One of the things I noticed, and again, I want to just like recognize in this moment where I'm kind of diving as a human, we haven't really gone over the basics, but your authority and human design to really help you start to make decisions based on what's right for you, which to me is trusting our intuition. I noticed with generators with sacral authority in particular, I think, having somebody who you can talk to who can pay attention to your signs and signals. Because I know when I'm talking to a generator, oftentimes, they're going like this. So they're kind of their body is actually going Yes, yes, yes, because their bodies kind of nodding and moving. And then all of a sudden, I can tell when they check out or it doesn't align, because they kind of stopped moving with what I'm saying. Or like, I can sense the confusion. So even as we're in the early processes of learning to trust our intuition, I think being able to have safe spaces, to talk about things and reflect with people who have our own best interest in mind, they can help to really reflect back to us, like, I see that you're thinking this. And your mind is coming in and saying this. And I see that your your body and your intuition and your emotion and your energy, like I can feel it doing this. So while you're telling me that you're gonna stay at your job for three more months, because it's has benefits, which is why everybody cites the excuse of staying in their job because as benefits, right, that most of us never use most of the time. But some people do. But you know what I mean? Like that's, that tends to be a big thing. Like, I actually feel because what I'm hearing you say is that, like you're ready and opportunity is starting to come and you're getting super frustrated being in this job. And you know, you're ready to fly the coop. So I think as we start to navigate that for ourselves, just even having people who can reflect back to us, where our mind is getting stuck, but our body is pulling us somewhere else can be very helpful.

Jamie Stephens: 33:37

You know, everything is always more clear. Whenever you look back on a situation you're like, Oh, that makes so much sense. But whenever I left corporate the first time I like it really took I mean, I had like zero awareness of any of this whole world, but it was just it really took my body physically telling me this is no longer an option for you to wear, just like I'd pull into the parking lot and just be like, Oh my god, I'm gonna get sick. And like, Yeah, over and over and over. I'm like, Okay, well, clearly, I'm not pregnant. But it's not that it's not morning sickness. There's a correlation here. So yeah, just listening to your body and just starting to pay attention and to understand like how it's talking to you. And yeah, so funny because the more I dive into human design, and the more I try to understand it, there's just like so many layers upon layers upon layers of stuff. That makes sense. Oh, wait, how did you most sorry, go ahead.

Jess Bubbico: 34:42

I would say most people feel affirmed by human design. More so then it's not about learning yourself through human design and becoming that thing. It's more about the affirmation of, oh, yeah, I totally make decisions with my gut. And that's the idea with human design is that it's I admit to be a body based decision. Like we're the only animals on the planet that have this mind that we have in the way that we do that we don't follow our bodily impulses. And then we get sick, or we get this, like, I remember was 2017 into 2018. So I was 20, something 2017, I was like 28 years old. And I was on the board of a networking thing, and Charlotte where I was living. And there was a woman named Kathleen, who lived in this building, this really nice complex, where we would have the events and I think she was like, 50, with color 50 at the time. And she was never at home. She was single, she was always traveling, working. I was not happy with where I was living. And we had a conversation, we sat down one day, she was the president, I was VP and she's like, why don't my lease is almost up? Why don't we just move in together at this apartment complex. I've got some two bedrooms open, I'm never home. You're working. I was still in corporate at the time. And let's just do it. And I remember telling my friends like, I'm about to move in with my 50 ish year old friend. And they were all like, What is wrong with you and I was moving out of I was moving out of like the downtown area into this place called South Park, which is just a little bit outside of downtown and a little bit nicer. And I think all my friends were like, I think you've lost it like you're talking to you're talking to dead people. You're gonna move in with a 50 year old woman outside of downtown, like, we're concerned about you. They didn't really say that. But I could tell when I was telling them what decisions I was making. Yeah, but it felt so right. Like it in my body. It felt so right. And I did it. And here was the thing like Kathleen had been, I need to check in on her and talk to her and so long,

Jamie Stephens: 36:59

so call this afternoon. Don't

Jess Bubbico: 37:00

worry. She 100% Well, Kathleen had been she worked in restaurants. She quit. She did something crazy. She bought a curves gym. She ran it for like two years. I don't think it made any money. Maybe it did, but it didn't it didn't like blow up and you know, make her a multimillionaire, but she loved it. And she had such an amazing experience. And then she became a financial advisor. Right. So she had started many careers. She was in her 50s She was wise. I was scared to death. And I was at that point, it was the end of coming to the very end of my career. You know, my my corporate time. And I was driving to work every morning crying. And I was frustrated. And I had no idea. I'm like, I just want to have my own business. But I'm, I'm not making enough money to leap yet. Like, but there was no enough. That wasn't even really the problem. It was in my mind, I don't even know what I was waiting for. But Kathleen, I just remember having this conversation with her. And she said, Jess, when else are you going to do it, you're 28 years old, just leap, like, just do it. And she kept saying like, you know, if you have a plan B, which was my job, you're never going to make Plan A happen. So just leap and she's like, I will support you, I am here for you. And not like she was going to pay all my bills. But she's like, if you need something, I've got you. And so this decision, where I was dissatisfied in my living situation, to move in with a woman who was, you know, 20 something years older than me in an area of town that quote didn't make sense, was the most supportive, nurturing thing I could have done for myself. Because she just kept saying because she had the experience. She had the wisdom she had become an entrepreneur, she's like, just keep going, you know, just keep doing keep you've got this. So I think it's like, again, the body tells us one thing, like my body was crying. I was I was having I couldn't sleep at night, I was having to like drink wine to sleep, which is not me at all. No, no offense, anybody who does it, but like, I just I never knew myself as that. And so I knew that I was avoiding something. And so yeah, I mean, again, it's like, intuition isn't logical, but if we follow where our bodies are taking us, like, for me, it's often this. I'm emotional authority. So it's like when my body hits this wave of calm of like, Okay, I'm ready to collide into this, like, I had my emotional experience. Should I move in with her? Should I not move in with her? Is this a good idea, but not and it was like, the calm comes? I'm like, Okay, it's time to time to do that thing. And that's where I think we start to see that nonlinear movement are the things that don't necessarily make sense. In the end, as you said, and it's the Steve Job quote, can't always connect the dots looking forward, but you can always connect them looking back, it was the most logical decision because it helped me to do the thing I actually wanted to do versus what everyone else was telling me I should do.

Jamie Stephens: 40:09

Tell me about something that really surprised you. Like, once you made the leap, and you've left the hospital, you're doing your own thing. I know you've had like a four year or so runway to kind of get up to speed, was there anything that came as a shock, or that you really had to like, recalibrate once you left,

Jess Bubbico: 40:30

my nervous system had to recalibrate because you don't make money. And I didn't make money in the same way that I did. So you know, I might make all of my money at the first week of the month, and then not make $1 the rest of the month, at least that's how it was working at that time. So I the adjusting to not making a paycheck for my nervous system. And when I say my nervous system, I mean, like anxiety, I would get anxiety. So that inconsistency, I think was a really big shock to me. And it became normal, you know, over time, I'm like, oh, money doesn't actually just come every Friday. That is not how money operates. Money operates in different ways. It's crazy. So I would say that was a big one. Making my own schedule to some degree, I think was I had to learn how to create boundaries for myself, because I would just work 24/7. And so and sometimes, just because I was anxious. So that was another one for me I really had to learn was like how do I create boundaries around my work? So I'm not stressed all the time.

Jamie Stephens: 41:35

And so how were you using the tools that you were learning at the time? I mean, because it's like a constant development. So with the tools that you had at the time, how were you like recognizing that anxiety and knowing what to really do with it? If you remember a great

Jess Bubbico: 41:54

question, yeah, I'm actually like, I'm seeing a specific situation in my head. I was doing a lot of acupuncture, actually, at the time. And I had some really great people around me. So like, I think I was in a group coaching program at the time. Plus, I was getting some support on the other end. And sometimes to be honest, I don't always recognize it. So I think I would love to say like, oh, I I'm great at right, I was great at recognizing it in the moment. But it's like, he can't really necessarily always see when you're in the middle of a storm. So I think being able to have people around me like my roommate, or the acupuncture people, or these other people who could give me reflections back was very supportive for me. And then in terms of the tools, I mean, I've always been pretty curious and inquisitive around my own mindset and my own healing and my own process and journey. So I think I just always continued to turn inward, and just go like, Okay, what else is happening here? Okay, what else is happening? How can I continue to support myself? So breathwork, coaching, acupuncture, all these different things that I always just followed my intuition. I'm like, What do I need? Okay, this is what I need. This is what I'm going to do today.

Jamie Stephens: 43:07

So tell me how you are helping people now what is what is your, your thing these days?

Jess Bubbico: 43:14

Yeah. So I work with entrepreneurs who are in the solopreneurs space, who have some clients, they might not have like a full on fully expanded business, but they're working with some clients doing work that they love. So I've got like, as an example, somebody right now who's a massage therapist, or she'll have a woman who's an artist, a lot of service based entrepreneurs, also who are in like, the coaching space, things of that nature. And I support them using the gene keys in human design, to understand their own energetic roadmap of how they're designed to create their business. And I really help them to there's so many How To rules, quote, unquote, I think in the coaching industry, and in the self help online industry, that I think have good intention, but I find get people very stuck in their heads because they're like, Oh, I'm supposed to have an opt in, or I'm supposed to have a group program or whatever. And I really love helping people step outside of the box of the half twos, and actually step into the want twos and the desires to and create their businesses in ways that are maybe outside of the box and innovative, but very much true to them. That's really I do one on one. I also have some groups going. And things are continually evolving and shifting and changing and growing. So I've got my podcast as well. But yeah, I really love helping people do what's true for them. Because I think we're in a massive time of everybody's discovering, like, oh, differentiation, I'm different. I do things differently. But then what we're doing is we're going at least in the coaching space Self Help space, it's like, oh, I'm different, I can be me. How do I fit this into the box to make a lot of money doing this business? And it's like, that's completely against the whole purpose of why you're stepping out of corporate is not to fit yourself into another box, but to create your own self.

Jamie Stephens: 45:18

Which is a big, big ever learning lesson. Absolutely. I mean, as a, as a new entrepreneur, you do gravitate towards somebody telling you what to do, like, tell me this, tell me this, because you don't have that trust built up within yourself, which is, you know, there's a whole breaking down of what used to work or how you worked, or how you showed up in the world, and then kind of that rebuilding and rebuilding of that trust that, like, once you get to that place, that it's like, not what everybody else tells you what to do, or the rules or the shoulds, and all of those things. I mean, that is a challenge to listen to it, because it's like, Oh, you want me to do what? Like? Yes, no, is that gonna make me any money? So? Yeah, so that's, it's a really valuable service

Jess Bubbico: 46:11

there. I think we're taught to look for structures to fit into. And the truth is, we need structures. I mean, everything in nature has a structure, you know, you cut a tree open, and you're like, Oh, there's the rings. This is what it looks like. There's a root system like, yeah, my belief is, let's start with the creativity first, and then build the structure around it. You know, but that puts you out on the limb. Because if you fail, all you have to do is to look at yourself and go, Well, why did that fails? There's something wrong with me versus, you know, but that builds massive self trust, massive self love. And again, it invites people in, I think, into new possibilities. So I love it. All right. Do

Jamie Stephens: 46:49

you want to tell people where they can find you, and any exciting things that are coming up in the next couple of months that you have going on?

Jess Bubbico: 46:57

Absolutely. So you can find me on Instagram at love your Woo, who? Over my website is also at love your woot.com? In terms of exciting things coming up? I'm not exactly sure. There's some stuff that's evolving. And I think there's going to be a lot of new products and services coming out. But I'm not exactly sure what they are. I'm kind of in the creative process as of now. So I offer something called a solopreneur activation session where we go through your human design and Gene keys to get a really good foundation of what you're here to do in the world who you're here to be. There'll be more to come but it's kind of creatively being birthed in the moment. Love it.

Jamie Stephens: 47:36

All right. Well, Jeff, thank you so much for your time today. I really appreciate all your wisdom that you brought with you. So thank you.

Jess Bubbico: 47:43

Thank you. Big thank

Jamie Stephens: 47:45

you to Jess for being present with me and letting us hear her story and all her lessons. Some of the key takeaways I want to highlight are number one, out of alignment. Many people make the decision to walk away from jobs because of a misalignment of values. Corporations may say they care about people, but when they make decisions strictly from a financial perspective, it feels incongruent. Number two, the shame game. When you walk away from a traditional path to explore the more quote unquote woowoo side of your business, you might come up with a lot of shame or embarrassment. Meet yourself with love and compassion as you do the internal work to unravel that identity and release the shame. Number three, intuition can be developed. In other cultures, communing with those that have passed is not uncommon. Intuition and connection are gifts that can be developed. There are teachers and guides that can assist you and you don't have to run away from the wisdom being offered. Number four, receive guidance from your intuition. Connect to yourself, journal out your knowings learn the difference between fear and intuition. And just a helpful tip intuition is never frantic or worried. All as well. Always. Number five, work with your human design. Human Design is a system that helps you understand how you operate in the world. Applying this in a business sense you learn how your intuition speaks and how to gain access to your own wisdom. Then you can make decisions from a place of autonomy and heart. Number six, listen to your body talk. Whether it's a full body yes or a full body No, listen to what your body is telling you. Overriding with your mind what your body really wants and needs tends to lead to bad outcomes. Number seven, build your creative structure. As a new entrepreneur, you'll need to develop a new structure that supports the business you have question all of the half twos and know that you can create an out of the box business that's true to you. And if you need somebody to help, just reach out to just okay, that is it for this week. Thanks so much to just for being on the show today I have all her links in the show notes so you can learn to love your wound too. If you enjoyed this episode via dog go drop me a five star rating. There's a link in the show notes for that as well. Thank you so much for being here. I hope you have a fantastic week.